Posts made by Jetah

i'd say min-max is best done closer to the release because systems and formulas can change.

@Xzait said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Jetah you missed the whole point of my argument. there are players out there that see it as a 'money is no object' scenario. people WILL buy the stuff in the store, regardless of players that want to get all their in game money back just coz for no real reason at all besides being stingey. The items WILL get tested. The devs WILL get feedback. Doesn't matter if they have a dynamite gold refund in place or not. They shouldn't have to do a refund thing. People should only buy what they think they will want.

and testing isn't for those people. it's for the developers. the refunds/reset of the gold is to note that the items arent permanent.

the people aren't getting their cash back. just the items purchase through the store during that testing phase are removed and your gold amount is reset.

again it's for testing. it will cost them more to issue gold refunds during testing because people will expect purchases to not be permanent.

@Xzait

it's a letter, not a word.

@Gothix

the demon is summoned without 'armor' (underwear only) and has to be geared by the summoner! the gear is removed to the summoner when the time is up. the demon returns without said gear.

taming pets should be similar to mounts and 'dress for the location'. taking a tropical pet into the frozen tundra should mean death for the tropical pet. Fractured would need a way to tame 2 pets so that you can bring them back to the city so swap them out.

@Xzait said in Buildable items for plots:

@Jetah XD all your highlighting is english... just the text form, instead of the full form. I fix all of my spelling mistakes that i notice either before i initially post, or directly after before anyone potentially has read it. If i still miss it even then, i ignore it. (if u want, i can start implementing numbers in2 my posts as well, 2 make u freak out even more) at least you tried i guess. but you just proved how little you know about english. Also, the three dots is an ellipses, not an elipse.

you also shouldn't assume people are implying something just because they havn't commented about one particular part of it. if someone says they want beast hunting achievements specifically to be solo only... that is exactly what they mean... not that they want everything solo. The beast heads was the main focus at the point in time after all, not something else of the hundreds of other things that could be implemented that would ONLY be good as an achievement or trophy if it IS multiplayer.

i was the first to mention trophies and specifically stated "killing world bosses to get a head". Gothix mentioned specifically "was made solo". they even specificed "a solo kill" but didn't mention anything regarding in addition to group versions.

There's nothing to assume when the comment specified solo kills and only solo kills and mentioned group help wouldn't reward the user with the trophy.

and "u" "r" are letters of the alphabet, not words.

@Xzait said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Jetah said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Xzait said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Jetah said in When will shop items become available ?:

@deusex2 said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Znirf said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Jetah said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Znirf

are these item(s) permanently purchased or will the gold be refunded at release or in another test phase?

The bought items will become permanently bonded to your account, as you noticed all of them are pets or cosmetics things, so there is no need for a later refund.

Good to know, means we can go nuts during alpha test

just means, no refunds.

which is good would waste the devs time if they had to do extra coding just to make sure that everyone got all their gold back without having any bugs either completely removing all of a players gold or doubling other players gold... no refunds = no extra potential unneccissary bugs.

they can just save the state of the gold and revert it. i will tell you that we'll have plenty of people posting they thought the items would be removed and the gold reset during phases. it'll cause more problems for DS than it'll help. You're also implying that no testing needs to be done with the store and that exploits wont happen. I know they will happen and resetting helps remove the gains and allows DS to recover from it.

how am i implying no testing needs to be done? i am sure hundreds of people have already bought them, including myself. If people are instantly thinking they will be refunded all the gold they bought if they spent it, would being told in a definate matter, they shouldn't be buying gold in the first place.

And also, just to expand on my point... i spent an extra $100 BEFORE the pledge pack gold even got updated into the store... others probably did the same, instead of using the however much gold they had from a pledge pack... i still have my 30,000 dynamite gold from my immortal pack just sitting there.

they wont refund the cash that bought gold. they'd only return the gold used during testing that purchased items during testing while removing the items as per the account wipe between testing phases.

i know for a fact people will be pissed they bought something from the shop and wont get a refund during the phases. they'll end up manually giving the gold back and removing the items.

@Xzait

usually it's a quarter, so 3 months.

@Xzait

i think it's a pretty unique system that makes these forums active. otherwise i'd be on reddit or ignoring it like the 5 other games i've backed.

@Xzait

there's a difference between a spell summoning 1 demon vs an invasion vs the portal (maybe similar to a stargate).

the summon would mean the demon is friendly to the land and wont be attacked. they could get knowledge this way and it isn't permanent. the summon could be a few minutes with longer duration based on rank.

@Znirf said in Shop: common or not:

@00 said in Shop: common or not:

So now that new cosmetics are out, what are the plans for Fractured: leave them available over the years or make them uniques wave after wave?

Hello! We plan to create a sort of items rotation for the store; new pet/building design/decorations/..etc will slowly replace the older ones, so, we can say that almost all the things that you can find in the store are "exclusive".

i hate those types. played Dauntless that does that and I dont buy things.

i'd highly suggest having some items that dont rotate. let them be your foundation. bundle some pet, spell effect, armor cosmetics and toss in some dynamite gold for a savings.

@Yitra

i like that you can't buy the item though (at least not now). it's a foundation item, thus you have to be active to a point to get it.

the foundation could be reset in beta or release and new cosmetics released which could make the chest unique to those that were here longer.

@Xzait said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Jetah said in When will shop items become available ?:

@deusex2 said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Znirf said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Jetah said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Znirf

are these item(s) permanently purchased or will the gold be refunded at release or in another test phase?

The bought items will become permanently bonded to your account, as you noticed all of them are pets or cosmetics things, so there is no need for a later refund.

Good to know, means we can go nuts during alpha test

just means, no refunds.

which is good would waste the devs time if they had to do extra coding just to make sure that everyone got all their gold back without having any bugs either completely removing all of a players gold or doubling other players gold... no refunds = no extra potential unneccissary bugs.

they can just save the state of the gold and revert it. i will tell you that we'll have plenty of people posting they thought the items would be removed and the gold reset during phases. it'll cause more problems for DS than it'll help. You're also implying that no testing needs to be done with the store and that exploits wont happen. I know they will happen and resetting helps remove the gains and allows DS to recover from it.

@Xzait said in Buildable items for plots:

@Jetah please learn english some more... coz all you do is repeat the same thing over and over... providing useless posts in the thread because you "don't understand" what we are saying, despite us explaining it in 5 different ways... if u r just gonna spam.... go somewhere else pls. coz like @Gothix said... it is as if u r trolling at this point... the thread is for potential ideas for the devs (if they check this) for stuff they can implement for us to put on our plots of lands. (if u really r legit... here is a hint... a trophy is a momento of achieving a typically difficult task...)

you tell me to learn English yet you dont even spell words properly. I've highlighted all the errors. also the elipse isn't a proper way to end every sentence. Maybe you need to head back to elementary school to learn English yourself.

that aside, it wasn't until this post that Gothix specifically stated they wanted single and multi trophies. Until then they specifically stated they dont want someone buying trophies from groups post here. Now the first post "buying achievements" means no group trophies, which is what I commented on here. Now I can't read the minds of others, only what is written.

@Gothix

Where am I saying that I wish to exclude multiplayer content?! I'm saying that in addition to multiplayer content (millions of multiplayer content), some solo difficult challenges would be nice.

You never said both. You even commented that you dont want people to buy achievements via groups. That to me implies you dont want group achievements/trophies. And I did mention that WoW had solo content separate from group content when I mentioned the Mage Tower. But again, it was never mentioned, by you, to have both solo and group.

Just because I love group content doesn't mean I hate solo or that I need to be carried.

@deusex2 said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Znirf said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Jetah said in When will shop items become available ?:

@Znirf

are these item(s) permanently purchased or will the gold be refunded at release or in another test phase?

The bought items will become permanently bonded to your account, as you noticed all of them are pets or cosmetics things, so there is no need for a later refund.

Good to know, means we can go nuts during alpha test

just means, no refunds.

@Fi said in Summon Fellow Demon Players Ability:

the spell itself could have multiple requirements to learn.

I'm thinking it's not the skills themselves but the "knowledge". The teleportation/summoning could be interpreted as moving the body and spirit, through space/time and needing to reassemble it all. Restoration could be to repair any holes in the body from any oops.

maybe reagents are rare enough that it cant be used every day. but i'm not sure how useful that would be.

@Farlander

that's how I am. I'll wait until someone else buys it and post images or some type of feedback before purchasing it.

@Gothix said in Buildable items for plots:

@Jetah said in Buildable items for plots:

i dont understand the point of putting head drops in solo content when the game is a massively multiplayer. put these cosmetics in group content.

Because people could leech the "achievement" from the fact that they are in good group. And every noob could get the head like that (which would make the "achievement" worthless in the process, not being an achievement at all). People could even pay to the good group to take them through the fight and get the head.

I don't want achievements that are available through leeching or through payment. I want achievements, that you have to prove you are good enough to get them, and that can only be done through (hard) solo challenge.

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(I'm not saying that group content cosmetics shouldn't exist, they should as well. I'm saying that SOME unique cosmetics should only come through HARD solo challenges, so they can be used for bragging rights to show off that you can really play well, which is only provable if you need to show it through solo challenge, where noone can help you or carry you.)

what's wrong with people helping others in an online game? seriously, if you want single player content there are games built for that.
what's the point of having cities, whole planets dedicated to certain play styles if there's no interaction. we should be dependent on others to help achieve glory.

now while typing this out, i did remember that WoW had solo challenges as well as Raid/Mythic+ content. in Legion it was the Mage Tower. you were required to do it solo as it was instanced and were rewarded a cosmetic from it. however, as the expansion progressed the challenge for it became less (as people were able to get better gear). With Fractured having tiered gear (quality differences) it too can be trivialized as better gear is obtained.

and by the way, paying for things is what money is for. you're trading your cash, which was converted from time, into time savings. people dont learn everything and do everything their self. they buy thing so they do the stuff they want to do.

@Xzait said in Foundation chests:

@Jetah i dont think it will work that way... they look more like loot chests in games that are there to draw in tonnes of money from people trying to get super rare drops.

that might be their original intent but that can change. they can hand chest items out to the founders and just sell skins of other designs.

@Xzait

yes you want easy content. got it. again, i dont like that in a MMO.