@finland can be broken. or a guild may seem good up front, but scam you later on.
@Vengu it can be setup so 1 player is limited on the total bounty of that player. ie it takes 1m bounty to be exiled and each account can place 1 total.
But I can port to Arboreus and slay there. it's part of the game mechanics.
@dagimir they'd have to limit the amount of resources produced in a given amount of time and have a way to remove them at the same rate.
Actually that would make for some interesting game play.
@finland said in Player bounty boards (PVP):
@jetah not in my guild ;). Kick is easy peasy
who would join a guild where they can't trade outside of the guild? i know i wouldn't.
@finland said in Contracts?:
Eve worst game ever! Let s not make fractured a fantasy version of EVE
how is it the worst. they have systems in place that other games have. we can also study the flaws and try to fix them. learn from other games even if you don't believe they are the best. I loved it, personally although it sucked to lose a region because the other side had better ships.
@finland players will trade outside of a guild.
Eve Online had direct trade or we could use the Contract system. There was a point where a direct trade could bug out and you'd lose everything (or close to it) and CCP wouldn't reimburse but if you used the Contract then they could reimburse lost items.
To me there's a database transaction that moved an item from one player to another.
@vengu lore wise a beastmen would never scam another but lore vs what happens in game will be different.
@Mazikar but i'm not talking about exploits, i'm talking about a scam.
@Finland how will scams be reduced within the beastkin community is a bounty can't be placed on them? How will a scammer be punished (outside of DS) by the community. At best you spam chat saying player xxx is a scammer don't trade. then that player just changes characters. It's possible that a max amount could be placed on a good aligned character then after so much is placed the NPC guards could carry out the sentence or the player can be exiled.
@Miffi I agree that if i'm not watching the trade carefully then it's my fault (assuming i'm being scammed). You played BDO knowing you could be ganked right and that it was part of the game. That's how I see Fractured. If you're outside of any protection (cities, villages, etc) then you should expect a pvp encounter. it's like being in a war and not expecting bombs to be dropped or guns to be fired or IDE hidden under the surface. @Finland this applies to you also.
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how do i ignore a specific post? like the daily message thread?
@finland You've never played a joke on someone before? I've played a few million bounty on my friends in Eve Online. it doesn't hurt them though if they die someone gets a little extra.
You see the alignment as a character divide. I see beyond the game and see the person sitting at the keyboard. just because the character is good doesn't mean the person is.
@Miffi Scams happen all the time. in Eve Online scams aren't disciplined by the developers, they actually encourage scams. example: I list a blueprint copy (which has limited build amounts) in a contract. I write on the title it's a blueprint original (which has unlimited build amounts). it's up to you to inspect it to see if it's a real copy or original. that isn't an exploit, it's a scam. If I'm selling a piece of gear for 500g and i post said item on a website, someone could pm me saying they want to buy said item for 50g. I can acknowledge the incorrect price of 50 or state it's 500. Depending on how many PMs i'm getting, how busy I am or I just have 50+ items on the market, I could forget the actual price and sell it for 50. that's a scam, not an exploit.
yes, its possible to burn some bridges with contracts and being jumped but there are new players joining all the time which wont know about it. at that point you just delete the character and start over or switch to an alt or have an alt post it while you jump them on your human/demon character.
@Benseine if you turn evil you can be exiled but that's if you kill the wrong people. however merchant/trade/gold scams aren't killing people. There wouldn't be an alignment change with that. The dev's also mentioned it would take a while to get your alignment changed. Lets say it'd take a year. So you could do a whole years worth of killing before you're considered evil. Whether it's a game year or real year is unknown.
I just want everyone to understand that it shouldn't be up to the developers to stop people that scam (not exploit). Yes, exploits should be fixed and some punishment should happen. Also understand that having a bounty system only apply to 1 alignment will suck for game play not to mention there would be no penalty to scam. a person wanting to scam should have some knowledge or fear that they could have a bounty placed on them. A beastkin could be good aligned but that doesn't mean the person behind the keyboard is the same. I'm actually a good and nice person, despite how I act here. I do like to argue, discuss(?), only to point out alternative view points.
Not to mention if bots can have bounties placed.. well i guess their bosses would claim that, nevermind.
As many have mentioned ganking, it's a pvp game. there isn't any formal, instanced, arena that we can join to have consented pvp. The whole planet is our arena. by playing the game in unprotected areas (i'm thinking outside of the zones that demons can't reach) you're consenting to pvp, that's a major point of the game.
Beastkin can very well invade the demon planet if they choose, which i'd invite them to do so. It's going to get pretty stale if it's just the demons invading the beastkin planet. Think of it as a purge of the evil that threatens your planet. make it a monthly event! if it's popular enough, DS could make it an official event.
I'll also encourage everyone to not fear pvp. it's actually a better challenge than any AI could give.
@finland said in Player bounty boards (PVP):
@jetah killers only. No point to punish someone offering a work. Would be easier to develop. If you make free bounties for all you must suggest also a system to prevent players to start no sense bouny. (Just for fun or rancor). I don like too much choice and liberty. I don't wanna risk to have a bounty on my head for no reasons.
where's the fun in a "no sense bounty"?
you say that like no one has ever been scammed. if there is a way to anyone to scam another it'll be used. don't be so naive. if there's no retaliation, even on Arboreus, the amount of scams will be huge.
I can't see the developers offering 2 systems one for Arboreus and 1 for the other 2 planets.
Sandbox games should have the population setup to handle the affairs of the game with some extreme cases being directed to the developers.
bounties on beastmen could be an attraction for demons and humans to invade. sure the beastkin couldn't do something but that doesn't mean they're completely immune. a bountied beastmen could head to the human planet and be killed thus the bounty is collected.
@finland i setup a contract for you or your guild to carry goods from beast city 1 to city 4. I also tell my friends when you picked it up. I have them ambush you and take everything. I'm still good aligned so you cant put a bounty on me even if i said i arranged it all.
if it isn't a contract then it's a trade by using chat. point remains that i'm good aligned, you were hit pretty hard and have no method to retaliate on me.
