Posts made by Jetah

@finland said in The PvE vs PvP Thread:

@jetah said in The PvE vs PvP Thread:

@miffi said in The PvE vs PvP Thread:

@jetah But not if your in a traders market. I mean I guess they could make it that pvp could be done in a market but that would make that particular market have no one come by. I would assume areas where trades are done they are protected and therefore items would be jacked up for those who are pvp/pker's.

i don't see tartaros having a no pvp place. I want pvp everywhere even if it has 'guards' that will persuade an attacker to not attack. now it probably will have a no-pvp area in the cities but that isn't the 'lawless land' i'm thinking of.

I hope to see a planet totally lawless also the cities. There's no point to not attack people in a city on a lawless planet. I like the idea to have 3 different styles on each planet there would be no point to make some restrinction on Tartaros.

i'm completely with you on that one! (tehehe we actually agree on something!!!!)

@finland said in Fog of War:

@jetah we are not on rts anyway. I hope not see a FoW. Greethings

point was the maps were huge because they where spheres then you could send ships to other spheres.

I'm not understanding how fog would hurt a beaskin on arboreus when they'd get the benefits and attackers would get a penalty to line of sight. it would make invading harder.

@miffi said in The PvE vs PvP Thread:

@jetah But not if your in a traders market. I mean I guess they could make it that pvp could be done in a market but that would make that particular market have no one come by. I would assume areas where trades are done they are protected and therefore items would be jacked up for those who are pvp/pker's.

i don't see tartaros having a no pvp place. I want pvp everywhere even if it has 'guards' that will persuade an attacker to not attack. now it probably will have a no-pvp area in the cities but that isn't the 'lawless land' i'm thinking of.

@finland i played an rts that had a whole planet as the map.. and you could jump to moons then use those to crash into a planet.

@Target yeah I'm wondering how it'll play out with it. I'd love to have a test server with it!

@finland

i didn't mention a spectate mode. i asked if we knew if the camera was locked to the character or if we could pan the camera across the world like you can in a MOBA/RTS?

@miffi

then you're killed again and looted. just because someone has a high price doesn't mean a pvp'er will pay it. i don't really see the beastkin trading with the demons. I do see them trading with humans and the humans trading with both factions.

@finland

do we know that the camera is locked to the character?

@Finland

most common MMOs aren't isometric!

@vengu

i also posted about a rotating camera. i'm not sure how the camera is setup at the moment.

sure it won't matter but it could be used strategically for both defense and offense. I'd say that most of the benefit is for the defenders.

@evolgrinz

you can't sell items there were taken when you're dead.

if the game is setup how i imagine it, then gatherers will need defense. crafters may or may not need defense and both will need everyone dying so the circle is complete.

@finland

with towers that increase the los for locals, it's easier, not harder. the tower wouldn't help invaders, actually it could be setup to thicken the fog for invaders so they would need more +light to see further.

@finland said in Fog of War:

@jetah you have no chance once ganked! The only way is the map awareness and flee as soon as you see ppl inc. That's all. I don't want it. In moba you gank while the fow is active. That's why you buy wards in dota2 to get visions and avoi ganks.. for example (but it's not the seame as total vision). Add a poll in the main thread like "Do you want FoW? 1.Yes - 2.No - 3.I don't care"

i don't like polls though, i like discussion.

so you're saying if some towers were built that moved the fow for the locals that it would be easy to be ganked, even if you could see clearly 2-3 screens away but the your attacker couldn't see beyond half their screen.

@finland

it's a discussion so i'm wanting to understand your point better.

fog can be used to hide also. while gathering, skinning, farming. if the los was based on a light power stat then those previous mentioned professions could have much higher light so see further. maybe certain towers or structures could be used to aid the home planet locals. A light tower or basic crows nest could be used to aid those in the area. giving an early warning to be ready to fight or flee.

@finland

couldn't also hide gatherers? couldn't hit also hide those wanting to ambush the ambushers.

limited line of sight works for everyone.

@tulukaruk

if DS didn't render the full item then we'd have issues. usually you render 3/4 of an object in isometric with a rotating camera you have to render the full item.

@deity

didn't think about posting the link on the main post, updated that.

i believe the game is in pre-alpha right now with very limited outside of developer friends and family access so it's possible they're past the point where they could add it.