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Posts made by Jetah
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RE: Feature Spotlight #6 - PvP, Alignment & Crime
@chrightt said in Feature Spotlight #6 - PvP, Alignment & Crime:
@finland
Why do people like to use WoW when it is such a crappy example. There are games like WoW where a large part of success was due to timing. I know there are multiple games with 2 factions each with their own race, but those are games designed to pit faction against faction like WoW and Archeage. What I think Fractured is trying to do is actually different. There isn't two "factions" fighting against each other so there isn't any faction war either. This makes races weigh much more.As I see it, "Demons are born with a strongly negative Karma – and they can’t make it better on their home planet." This means that they will always be strongly negative on Tartaros isn't that right? Doesn't this mean when other people come to Tartaros I'm just a prime target because, "However, other players can also do so against you, without consequences – such as being flagged as Thief or Murderer or losing Karma. In fact, they will gain Karma by getting the world rid of you!" when you are of evil alignment. Other than that I do see your point though, alignment allows us to change our race's nature, but our race still gets specific buffs/rules for specific planets.
Race is the faction unless you're trying to be an Angelic Demon. I see the game as Demons v Humans v Beastkin with humans being the 'neutral' faction.
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RE: Cosmetic cash shop, RMT and p2w.
@miffi I hate 3rd party rmt and i hate developers that offer 'catch up gear' or 'pay for convenience'. I love how Path of Exile does their cash shop minus the loot boxes - I hate those.
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RE: Cash Shop Items You'd [Consider] Buy
this was a problem in Destiny 2. but that isn't what the post is about as the developers can put good looking cosmetics in the game but they need more income than just a box sale. We see they offer Dynamight Gold in the Foundation rewards so this leads me to believe they'll have a cash shop. There's been 1 game in the last 5 years that's started as a subscription and has maintained it, that IP is FFXIV:ARR. All other sub based games have had to switch away from subs. Even WoW and Eve offer a means for players to play without needing to buy with cash.
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RE: Feature Spotlight #6 - PvP, Alignment & Crime
@finland Zerg is the name of a unit in Starcraft. Zerg works because it's all about higher numbers. Friendly fire, player collision helps deter zergs but numbers matter in a video game. Even skill is limited to numbers behind the game.
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RE: I have no friends :(
@rainstorm26 said in I have no friends
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@elyksah said in I have no friends
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@ildirettore I'll be your friend!
I'll also be your friend! And yeah, moving up seems easy enough without friends, but I'd imahine there's a point it gets more difficult.
i'm level 48 and had 2 1000 point winnings.
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RE: How do you feel about transmog system for fractured?
@rainstorm26 said in How do you feel about transmog system for fractured?:
People love their cosmetics. Can't necessarily say that I blame them.
people love to look good/unique and will pay lots for that.
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RE: How do you feel about transmog system for fractured?
@mramazing said in How do you feel about transmog system for fractured?:
FYI, transmogrification should not be a focus of any game at launch. Or prior to launch. This would include wardrobe masking, etc. It's a nice-to-have and not a needful. They already stated it's a buy once to play, I haven't seen anything about pay for looks. That would be the only time it would make sense to think about developing a system where your look is modified before release.
Foundation has rewards:
LEVEL 15: WHISPERER ARMOR SKIN
LEVEL 95: LEGATE ARMOR SKINThey're already thinking about skins for the game. It's a lucrative income for developers and publishers.
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RE: Feature Spotlight #6 - PvP, Alignment & Crime
@phaethonas Can I vote to called the Demonic Alliance?
I'll agree with what you said and have no problems joining the cause!@Target How appropriately named..
@Finland I was under the impression that Demons would have to fight the player and environment on Arboreus.
Maybe phaethonas wants to guard demons that want to gather there? Best defense is to kill everyone else. If the 30 minutes stands then it'll be tricky, however, sending a few harvesters with the group means we get both resources and zerg. -
RE: Feature Spotlight #6 - PvP, Alignment & Crime
Let me know when you me.
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RE: Cosmetic cash shop, RMT and p2w.
P2W definition has changed but still being accepted from any cash shop to paywalls to top gear in the store. The other form is if it takes more time to acquire the item than is reasonable is p2w. Different generations of gamers have different definitions of p2w. It’s mostly what the person is willing to accept. Some will say any form of trading can be p2w because there’ll always be a means to use cash to obtain something. Even some games without trading can have account services being sold.
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Cash Shop Items You'd [Consider] Buy
I was wondering what you'd be interested in buying from a cash shop within Fractured? Now this isn't about p2w or about trading these items to other players. I just want to give DS a list of items the current interested people would consider buying to they can see the types of items we're interested in.
- Armor Cosmetics
- Can be separated into Light, Medium and Heavy types. Could be thick cloth, hardened leather or chainmail
- Weapon Cosmetics
- Can be unique flaming/chilled/lightning effects that attach to the weapon. Change a sword into a scicle, or a staff into a scythe. Bow into a crossbow or compound bow.
- Mount Cosmetics
- Can be different styles horses, or other beast
- Stances (melee combat animation)
- Spell FX
- Voice Lines
- House styles
So long as the visual fits the theme of the game and we aren't seeing pink teddy outfits or horse heads or automobiles as mounts, I'd be happy.
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RE: Craft - Brewmaster
this makes me wonder if we'll see any type of drunken boxer style abilities.
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RE: How do you feel about transmog system for fractured?
I haven't seen an pvp game use that in a while, usually armor just reduces the damage taken. Remember that people wont know what you have as well, so it works both ways. While the conceal and carry is a little far fetched it does match. you don't know what weapon a person has while in a store. gun, knife, fist, brass knuckles or feet.
I'd rather a system that allows the developers to sell cosmetics than for them to pass up that income. I want different looking armor, weapons, spell effects, stances and animations. PoE has great cosmetics and it isn't p2w, though it's 99% pve. I'd much prefer a new leather visual than a leather chest armor with top end stats.
Many PvP games with cosmetics just allow same armor type transmog so of course that may happen here. I haven't seen too many cloak/hood overalls for characters.
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RE: Cosmetic cash shop, RMT and p2w.
I've seen games with cash shops that couldn't trade items and those you can. In Warframe, you can trade plat then use that to buy market items. One reason I like that system is because everyone has access to the items in the cash shop you just have to trade things.
@Miffi the gold has a limit though because only so much can be created via the game (assuming gold isn't sold directly via the cash shop). On the one hand it allows a player to buy gold on the other hand it allows a f2p to buy cash shop items, which means everything is accessible to all play types.
I'd prefer a system where players can trade (shop currency/sub time/etc) for gold to give cash shop access to everyone.
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RE: Feature Spotlight #6 - PvP, Alignment & Crime
eve online has it and yes you have to be careful who you tell what to and whom you give power to.
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RE: PvP Combat Skill Cap
The game will have an isometric view similar to mobas, rts, and many dungeon crawlers. So the skill cap will depend on how the skills interact.
The movement is stop to cast or use an ability, iirc. All movement is mouse clicking currently but there was a WASD thread.
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RE: Feature Spotlight #5 - Character Creation, Attributes And Resting
@hornyvikingbushi realistically a few horns is all you'll notice, maybe the tail. Armor will cover the remaining 90%. I would like to see a few dozen horn and tail options.
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RE: Upgradable Pets
@dybuk we dont know anything about it. the statement could have been specifically about battle pets and had nothing to do with charming critters. a good game wouldn't allow critters to be targeted to prevent the situation you mentioned.
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RE: How do you feel about transmog system for fractured?
@chrightt I'd say WoW is alive because people enjoy the lore, characters and end game content. I don't believe I said 1h could be changed to look like a bow or a 2h and I'm not even sure where people assumed this. Transmog started by consuming the item to place it on the other item. It physically destroyed an item for its look. This was changed, eventually. Terminology from 1 game often is used in other games. One game calls their cosmetic system Transmog another calls it Wardrobe. Often the game you play that labels it you'll use that in other games. PoE doesn't seem to have a name for their cosmetic system.
Some people don't like swords, some don't like axes, maybe both prefer maces. Allowing those people to change their weapon to a mace would make them happy. So long as the stats don't change, which they wouldn't, it won't matter to an attacker. Again I'll point back to my statement about being in a bar or other public place and not knowing the abilities of a person. Some people have conceal and carry permits and do have a gun on them, many don't (I'm an American so it's possible here). Some may know boxing or kickboxing or MMA or another hand to hand combat/defense techniques.
@Dybuk Why couldn't an illusionist place the spell on the armor for someone else? Who knows how powerful the illusionist is (if it's an npc).