Best posts made by asspirin

@Gothix perception might not be necessary, it offers you Accuracy, Crit damage and Crit chance so unless you specialise to do damage with your staff, you only use accuracy (if spells really cant crit). Then its better to put those precious stats elsewhere and get accuracy via enchants or abilities (like Inspire - 1PER gives you 15 Accuracy, with Inspire 1CHA gives you 10 accuracy but also a lot of saves + also LUCK which increases damage, chance to pierce saves and buffs your own saves). PER seems to me like melee/bow only stat and even then only if you go crit route (so basically pvp only stat) - warfare skills often dont even need accuracy to land hit.

Just noticed one can have more abilities if beastkin race is picked (from wiki):

For primal form you get button outside your standard 8 Abilities which allows you to transform without consuming one slot for it.

Imo it´s fair, demons have their racial passives that don´t occupy any slot. But is it still valid, or was it changed in some of the update ?

Also will shapeshift give you some kind of immunity like in mobas (dota for example - Lone druid gets short window of invulnerablity while shifting form)...probably not, right And will the cooldown be rather short or "once during fight" long?

Are there any other type of usable items than lets say potion, bandage, antidot etc. planned?
I mean items like Wands fom BG or wand from DotA, or item that would summon something to help you like Horn of Valhalla - BG or Necronomicon - DotA.

Would be craftable, have set amount of uses before breaking and would help classes with solving problems with immunities (other way than resting and changing your whole build) and would further specialise your build.
Problem is balance ... maybe like "needs to have 5 Invocation abilities slotted" (aka only for mages) or "5+ Musicianship abilities" (Bards only). Or the item could take up to 2 ability slots or something.

@Yitra Getting to 21 in attribute during creation will only cost you 27 points as beastman or demon, not 42. Thats imo what Gothix talking about. Still it looks balanced to me.

This is not entirely true. Even if shapeshifting has the same rules as mounting, there are situations in which it is preferable: for example, you probably wouldn't be able to mount in a dungeon, but you could shapeshift. If you just got out of a disastrous zvz and the in-combat timer run out, you can immediately shapeshift and run instead of waiting for mount summon. When dismounting, you should have CD on all the skills, which shouldn't be the case when shapeshifting. You can be dismounted, but nobody can force your shapeshifting. When doing trade runs / transports / protecting caravans, your objective will ride on high carrying capacity, but slow mounts. On foot you're too slow, mounted you'll have CD when dismounting to fight the enemy, so shapeshifting might be perfect here -> fast enough to keep up with the caravan and you can run into zvz right away if attacked. Plus, from what I read, some of their abilities are good at initiating fights.

Absolutely agree, but speed of beastshape will surely be way lower than mounts; if not, let´s all abuse it during beta tests, devs will notice . Still its weird that PvE specialised race gets abilities giving them advantage in PvP (except bear kin ofc)

This is why I am quite certain shapeshift speed increase will be minor, and not even remotely close to mount increase.

Someone mentioned ghostwolf from wow... ghostwolf was a travel form that couldnt fight.

Totally, I meant it like this. 40% is sure way too op, its basically neutralizing effect of Slow (-40% overall speed). Imo during first betas with beastkin people will complain so much on disbalance that devs will normalise all move speeds

beastkin can fight while shapeshifted

imo thats the reason for shapeshift, personally I dont really care about MS as Im going tank

https://fractured.gamepedia.com/Charisma

So charisma is basically for supporters (Leadership, whatever it does) pet users and traders

Luck on other hand "biases chances" - rolls : saves (sucessfully saving against spell aka second line of saves), chance to hit / land CC (secondary line of accuracy) and damage rolls (20-50 dmg weapon deals 50 dmg more often). Formula is like this:

Also natural 20 CHA increases multiplier of luck by 60%

Its weird to see no difference in survivability and offensive powers with such gap, maybe it was not fully integrated to game yet.

@Kuroi well so far bear kin seems fine for such thing - Frenzy gives attack/move speed fron CON and bear can reach 25 Constitution, so he can leave DEX at 6 and max PER while having nearly maxed fortify save and resolve most of time activated (stun immunity), not even talking about Shield block on 2s CD .
But it seems more like PvE build, noone will voluntarily stand and wait for you to rape them, lot damage in one swing is why slow weapons are better suited for pvp. Unless you go heavy CC assassin ... who is also able to take the beating from melee.

...or who can pick their target (aka leave warriors alone and rape casters :D). Or one that will use Slow + shield block on 2s cd--> 2h melees will land nearly no attack on you.

Just a question - can bearkin buy a bear trophy decoration on wall and bear fur near bed?
And when discussing crimes against nature, can deer kin eat meat (from wolves for example...would me nice irony )? Concerning mounts - as wolf kin there probably won´t be problems riding a wolf (but imagine human riding chimpanzee :p).

@Ostaff ...but cap is being removed in final version, right? At least for races able to reach 25 STR - bonus from it should give me 110% bonus dmg on its own. Hopefully various races will have different caps on everything (wolfkin will sure have better sense of smell than human therefore will be better at detecting enemy-->higher detection cap and three meters tall monstrous demon should develop more melee damage than any human ever will).

Concerning armour: i hope for at least little bit of realism (0% WoW, 5% Diablo III, 40% GRIM DAWN, 55% DIABLO II). But as long we can transmute same type of armour and weapons to another skin, everything goes.

Concerning weapons: same - please, make weapons at least little bit historically accurate - at least for human race, demons and beast will sure have stronger muscles, but human with 5 kg- 10kg weighting 1h sword is silly

@Jairone Fair enough. However I hope there won´t be 100 but 400 abilities as promised.

@Xzait

You´re sure right, but im not wrong neither :

herbivore = food specialization
vegan = some kind of faith in healthfullnes of eating food with low nutrition value

p.s.: it´s vegan as long as "giving the product" is voluntary
--> therefore it has not much to do with what one eats, it just philosophy,
so as long as you say Im vegan every 5 minutes, you´re fine

@Xzoviac Yes and also magic, there´s certainly a lot reasons why they would be able to wield massive weapons, but please don´t make it World of Warcraft or typical asian mmo, where you wield hammer double your weight.

1h sword weights like 1,2kg, 2h sword cca 3kgs, in most games however you see a huge rail you would need hydraulic exoskeleton to even wield ... and im not mentioning blunt weapons and axes with size of wrecking ball. So far most weapons in short videos by devs seem realistic, let´s keep it this way

@Tuoni You will be marked as murderer if you execute, not defeat, or im i wrong?

@Shivashanti yep, he doesn´t look that much hardcore (only dangerous thing he has is his totem > fireball combo as totem reduces your resists), but not experienced guys will sure get pwn...and many did. Anyway good job sir

Healing spells damaging undeads - i wouldn´t be surprised, this has been in many games, but against beefy dragon id rather save healing spell for myself (unless there is some kind of huge multiplier of damage...and of course if healing spells can crit at least when used offensively).

@Nyquil44 Thanks a lot for some nice material , most "official" streamers either don´t have videos yet, or when they play, they roll assassin with mage stats and only left click melee weapons without usage of any abilities at all ... and they don´t understand why they keep dying. Why didn´t they spend at least half hour studying the game, this way they´ll discourage viewers and look like total noobs -_-

Keep them coming, really thank You.

@Pwnstar There are gods

@GorTavaro

The way it seems Plague ability has literally zero usage in PvP (unless opponent goes offkline for few hours), even in PvE the ability looks rather annoying than usable. I hope however somehow such life removal skills will be usable even in pvp - maybe give it "lowers your healing while blight is in effect" or something.

@Jetah Bear will always be physically stronger than wolf, stats should reflect that (deer kin should be too, but for balance reasons they´re weaker ). At least we will not meet 80cm tall gnomes dual wielding 2 handed weapons like in wow

Im rolling necromancer/abjuration/warfare bear mage hybrid - who said you have to be pure thematic class

@Znirf The stats table I´ve seen somewhere in this forum must be out of date then Thanks a lot for info !